Point you cant beat a glock no matter what caliber just control it. LWDist. barrel can be changed out to a 9mm on for @ $100, and you can even use Gen 3 magazines that can be had for cheap. Naturally I still carried one of my S&W .38 SPL revolvers as a back up. All the numerical mumbo jumbo aside none of what is posted here matters if you cant place your rounds where you want, so in my humble opinion its okay to be a ballistics freak and and carry the conversation with impressive math, but the fact is accuracy should also be part of the formula and part of this discussion. never mentioned the need to swap the ejector. With a 45, not even close. One thing I am convinced of and that is that most of this is complete BS. Those are facts established from years of scientific testing and evaluations of actual shootings. The Smith & Wesson Model 19, and the later Model 13, were great service revolvers. So I call BS to your smack on the keltec, I own a Glock 17,19,20,21,22,23,32,and the new G40 all are great guns. If I were to purchase a Gen 2 Kel-Tec SUB-2000, I would also go with 9 mm because the ammo is cheaper and the capacity is larger with 9 mm. I simply cant shoot the .40 well. Ive been carrying a 23 for a couple of years now. A few spare mags loaded with premium ammo doesnt hurt. It has a compact frame, but is still has a double stack mag which was another important feature. This is the realm of the 9mm, .45 ACP, and the .40 S&W as well all of which are almost equally effective in stopping attacks psychologically or through direct CNS hits, but none of which can reliably stop attacks physiologically without neck/head shots. C, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN, WOULD BE COOL TO GO THRU THERE WITH EACH BARREL TO SEE WHICH ONE YOUR MORE ACCURATE WITH. My carry gun is a G26. My 1st take on the barrel is that there were more shots on target, in the black, than with my stock barrel. Initially my G23 was just OK until I made a few modifications, now it is my EDC and favorite firearm. Shoot straight and stay safe. Im always on target and I feel more confident with every pull of the trigger! Every student Ive worked with who had reliability problems on the range shooting a Nine saw their reliability issues disappear when handed a G23. The Glock 23 is my all time favorite followed by the Bersa Thunder 380 tack driver. Also the 9 mm round is more lethal in a carbine than a handgun, due to the longer barrel. We all tried the OEM glock 22 round for the 40 cal ammo, and again no issues. I know state police and other officers who prefer it over a 9, even a Sigg 9. Back to the point, the .40 s&w is an excellent bridge between the 9mm and the .45 acp. The Glock 19 comes with two 15-round stock mags while the Glock 23 comes with two 13-round stock mags. They might as well be the same gun in defensive virtue. Ammo Expense 9mm wins 29 when hunting in bear country,19,23,17 and they all have their purpose. Low calibers have very high pitch levels as opposed to. There were practically no stats in what I just read, but rather a description of energy in terms of velocity and mass. $539.11. 40s. In 2018, Glock introduced the Gen 5 Glock 26. I have the LT-40, and love it. I tried both the 19 and the 23 in Gen 3 & 4 versions before purchasing the Gen 4 23. ~Dave Dolbee. Ive never had a problem with jams with the G19. You can throw all the scientific data you want and it still doesnt matter. I love my Gen 4 Glock 23 too. I have purchased a 43 and am well pleased with the concealment and shooting. In summery, carry what works best for you regardless of the popularity. On the back is a screw on brass piece with a switch inside protected by rubber. I keep hearing of all these Latest FBI reports I would really like to see them. I have a Dawson sight and a polished ghost trigger bar at 3+ lbs.Wilson 115 gr whitebox RN ammo shoots about 99.9% of the time. I think the .357 line up is more suited for an experienced shooter indeed. The G23 always works with lightly-built shooters where the G19 fails. Two back surgeries forced the change so I traded in my Para P12 for the Glock. I wanted something she could control and shoot well. That is if they didnt drop dead first! I do not know anyone that carries the Glock 23 on their own time and their own dime. Just a few thoughts.. jimmyalbrecht Or if that is too difficult to understand, would you rather be shot by a .45 ACP or a .270 Winchester? Clearly, either holds enough cartridges on tap for any foreseeable difficulty. Im a 1mm auto fan the Glock 20 is a .45 frame weight of slide large frame Glock makes hot 135 grain JHP equal and surpassing the #1 man stopper of all time the 125 grain JHP. I almost went deaf from the piercing sound. It took time to get to like it since Ive been a 1911 shooter since early 50s. All of the quality defense ammo regardless of brand or caliber is loaded to meet the same standard issued by the FBI. What do they actually add up to? I think they were around $ 180.00. What is your recommendation on the better method to conceal carry and what holster do you recommend? Energy (work) = force * displacement Also, when it comes to the magazine capacity, the Baby Glock has a standard one of 10+1. The 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP all fall significantly short of that minimum. Good luck and be safe. Shoots fine with the short sight radius and the compensator really helps with mitigating muzzle flip and recoil for faster and more accurate follow-up shots on lions, tigers, and bears. Particularly since all three are actually terrible man stoppers. Shot placement means a great deal. When I got my concealed carry license a few years ago I cycled through all of my handguns but couldnt find anything that provided the right combination of caliber, capacity, reliability, accuracy and carry-ability. So we have a pistol that hits hard, but kicks harder. I like to have night sights on my firearm so that I can find it on the nightstand in the middle of the night. Some people find the Glock 26 to be a bit too chunky for a small gun, especially given how easily a 43 in an IWB holster just disappears under most cover garments. The Glock 23 is as accurate to a fast first shot as the Glock 19. I have never bought into the .40 caliber trend, though I am interested in the power 10mm round. No more trouble!, and it shoots smoother and with less recoil with the 9 or 40s running through it. As a Firearms Instructor for a Ga. L E Agency for 10 yrs. Already own one or all three? And I believe this is what this article is about a glock 23 i dont think a Kel-Tech 2000 is in the same category as a glock 23 handgun so how can u compare the two. However, there are many other fine makes and I own a bunch of them. This guy has an opinion and wrote an article. The same goes for the Glock 48. The slide is cut for the Shield Sights RMSc footprint, but adapter plates (use aftermarket; MOS plates are known for deficiencies) can be used to mount an optic with a different footprint. They did not crack or blow, but magnum recoil was hard on small parts. Yes, I know this is a blog, not real journalism, but there should be some pretense towards objectivity. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. SS1, One of the better features of the weapon is that it has Glock's Modular Back Strap design. I am certain a .45 can be made as light as a 9mm, but the .900-inch long cartridge case demands a long grip frame. Capacity Handgun stopping power is simply a myth Home Firearms Why the Glock 23 Should be Your New Carry Gun. So do Springfield, Sig, Baretta, Browning,DE, Ruger, HK and others. The handguns are identical in size and shape and fit the same holsters. The 40 SW is simply more powerful than the 9mm regardless of all the debates singing the praise of the 9mm. Good grief, Im 70, slightly crippled, just like to level the field as much as possible! Some particularly salient points from the FBI reports Executive Summary: Most of what is common knowledge with ammunition and its effects on the human target are rooted in myth and folklore Internal trigger, drop and firing pin safeties. That way someone would have the smaller slide, but the ability to use double stack magazines. I shoot 9mm out of mine sometimes and I dont really even notice a difference recoil wise but I can see a big difference in how much my steel targets move!!! As far as concealment, the G26 is the best. Normally, a price differential this huge is due to the rarity or greater desire for the higher-priced gun OR just the opposite. The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! m is the mass of the bullet. Why would you even think that way? Either will do the job, if you can place shots. The Glock is always reliable, you cannot take that away. conversion barrel for my Glock 23. Recently got another for my wife, also a CCL holder, for her to qualify with next time. I bought a 23 and equipped it with good gear and practiced with it. Retired NYPD here. I love my glock 26 with iwb holster , I use a 1911 so the 26 was little at first . That's next on my list. The average civilian would be just as well armed with a 22lr than a 45 acp given the fact that the confrontations are overwhelmingly within a 12 foot engagement scenario. Designed for concealed carry and one of the most sought-after pistols, the G26 9mm is small enough to hide. From my POV the frame is to square and sharp in the web between thumb and trigger finger to be comfortable. you said it yourself. ! Dang dude, relax! Firing the pistol you carry in this competition clearly gives you an edge in any situation. Out of four people whom I spoke to about this redundant issue that work in the force, two of them use .40s while another who is retired daily carries a 1911 .45ACP. More ammo in a lighter gun and lighter dual-mag pouch. The 36 and 23 now alternate as my carry weapons, depending on the situation. It would save you some money for ammo and more magazines. They just arent, well, they are just, well, plastic. The articles title is Why the Glock 23 should be your new carry gun. The Glock 26, on the other hand, takes ten nine-millimeter rounds in a double-stack magazine, all while remaining just over an inch wide and maintaining a relatively short grip. Or you could go wild and get a 9mm barrel, and G26 mags for your 27. I was standing and shooting all Underwood and Buffalo Bore ammo, basically all +P ammo, so this wasnt some kind of smooth bench rest test. I had a guy in the lane next to me the other day with a Glock 17. Most of the .45 acp rounds I fire, even in +P have very little flash, but are deafening in close quarters. The deciding factor for me was ammo cost and the ability to control the follow-up shot. It would seem at times that the writers for CTD/TSL are biased toward Glock. has Glock 19 capacity. Then when my 9mm mags were empty I swapped to the original barrel. I use and like Glocks. I had a G27 & sold it because of the snappy recoil. With those kinds of numbers, it would be irresponsible if we did not dedicate a lot of coverage to Glock. All in one gun; the g23? I use two glock22 for home defense and I carry two glick19 on me all the time . Viridian Weapon Technologies. Anyone expecting a one-shot stop with a handgun in a defensive situation is either an exceptional marksman (in which case caliber wont matter), or theyre in for quite the surprise. At a full length of 9.57," the Glock 24 is a gun that's completely unable to be used as a concealed carry unless you're willing to wear a trench coat. Are you so tired of hearing about Glocks that when a cop writes an article saying, Hey you should try this Glock 23 out that you immediately hold onto your super expensive Kimber Ultra II with both hands and yell, Why do I HAVE to? In the case of the ,40SW SUB-2000, buyers hate them and are unloading them like a polyester 3-piece suit from the 70s. The most effective weapon will always be the one that you are carrying. That depends on how you define "better." In my experience, accuracy and quick follow up shots are not a problem. Hmmm: Not on my loved-ones lives or my life!! Again, it really doesnt matter what caliber you carry, as long as you carry something and you can reliably and accurately hit your target. One of the most competitive markets in the world of handguns is the subcompact market. Shield Arms devised the S15 magazine for Glock 43X and 48 pistols, which is a metal magazine body that allows staggering of cartridgeswhich means a 15+1 capacity in a Glock Slimline pistol. I own four Glocksthe 19, 26, 36 and, most recently, the 23 Gen 3. And if I want a 9MM It can be changed over easily and cheaply!! Otherwise, the self-defense shooter is still at risk while an attacker bleeds out, no matter what round is used. The weapon has a 10+1 magazine capacity. I dont just stand and shoot, I do my best to simulate shooting from concealed as much as our range will allow. Addition of a few bells and whistles has made this weapon a better fit for me. Thanks for your answer, Dave. Even my Carry weapon which is an S&W Shield 40. I dont hate it, but just not impressed. Bajar mp3 de las mejores canciones de glock 27 gen 4 en formatos de audio como MP3, WMA . All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. Now that does not mean I wont get the 23 for some fun. With defense ammo and superior control you can put more center mass the only objective not to say I have a 45acp I cannot hit real well with. They seem to have a well thought out design. I have the best of both worlds, I bought the KKM If m is specified in grains and v in feet per second, the following equation can be used, which gives the energy in foot-pound force: v is the velocity of the bullet Other than a single pistol class back in 2014 Im a self taught shooter, and I can EASILY draw, fire 3 rds, and hit center mass of my IDPA target with all 3 in less than 3 seconds from 10 yds. The weapon measures 6.41 inches long with a 3.42 inch barrel. My little keltec P-11 9mm will shoot almost 1/4 inch back is it optimal no but many people dont know there Glock or sig or ruger may not fire and have no idea what out of battery is or that the trigger wont pull. Enter the 96. Reloading has become a ritual, and my passion has moved to multiple Calibers. With a Glock, it is true that you can more or less be sure that it will go bang when you need it to, but handguns in general arent that effective compared to long guns. Get reliable and durable Glock magazines right here at your online source for Glock pistols, ammo, and magazines, Palmetto State Armory! Product Description The Mini Glock or Sub Compact G26 is the triumphant advance of the smallest GLOCK pistol, specially developed for concealed carry and previously a domain of 5-round snub nose revolvers. The magnum cartridge was also hard on the gun. When I was a correctional officer on the PERT team and a armed nuclear security officer we trained to shoot center mass nevertheless targeting the triangle(eye sockets down to the nasal cavity) the 9mm will get the job done. TrueGlo TFX sights. I keep a 32 rd spare in my vehicle too. The conversion process is as simple as takedown: remove magazine, empty and visually check weapon, remove the slide/barrel assembly as you would in normal field-strip for cleaning, install conversion slide and barrel as you would in normal reassembly, function check, load magazine and you are ready. No point to this, just FYI. Some were loaded perhaps too hot. It is,in my opinion a great carry weapon. I agree 100%, but I went to the next. To be honest Im about 7-8 out of 10 hitting that target from 50 yds with my 23. Sig Sauer was everything to me. Price (Winner: Glock 23) You can score the Glock 22 Gen 5 for $649.99 . Add to that the fact I do figure 8 drills around 12-15 yds and draw, hit an IPSC zone C torso 3 times (1-2 through the center mass flap) and be back in compressed ready before the 1st brass has hit the ground!!!! I looked at the G23 but when I fired it, my thumb, more than once, hit the mag release from the recoil, causing FTFs. The Glock 43 is a very good fit in that instance. Glock 26 (G26) Sub-Compact Handgun, Available in 3rd, 4th, in 5th Generation Models Glock 34 (G34) Modern Competition Handgun (similar to, but slightly shorter than the Glock 17L), Available in 3rd, 4th, in 5th Generation Models Advertisement Glock 43 (G43) Slimline Handgun (great self-defense handgun for women) Recoil is not an issue for me when using my G23. Perceived recoil is not much different for me between the 2. If you want to see a significant improvement in you accuracy, use a LASERLYTE trainer cartridge to practice between trips to the range. Of all people, I didnt know that the author word answer positively to my 10mm comment . Of course, this is personal preference, but Im an ex-cop, NRA Firearms Instructor, and a competitive shooter. The .40 was shoehorned into the 9mm frame in much the same manner and much the same problems surfaced. The 10mm was supposed to be the answer to the underpowered duty rounds that the Miami PD carried. You might what to be a bit skeptical too maybe, or not. I love the Glock 43 it conceals easily and comfortably with appendix carry for me . If you are using them with the beavertail they have less flip. I can shoot all four pretty much equally well, but the 23 is a cut above in terms of accuracy and of course power. Glock has made it clear that the Glock 19 and the Glock 23 have different ejectors for a reason. The Smith & Wesson .38 Special handled well and was mild to fire. I have not experienced a lack of accuracy at all with the 6 barrel. I went to two different gun shops in town and asked each shop owner what he recommended. The larger mag sticks out the grip by an inch but doesnt affect handling. I'm a known 43 hater on here, so I would say 43x or G26. The .40 S&W was a success story. At its core it is a subcompact pistol with a larger than average magazine capacity. This is the equivalent of the Glock 17, in a more compact form. I do however regret selling my G26 simply because of capacity and being able to use 15 rounds magazines from my G19, I didn't think about that at the time of the sale and now looking to buy another G26 G4.. Great info and very helpful as I decide which Baby Glock to purchase. Not an issue when it comes to EDC ammo, but I try to attend at least one high round-count class each year and the price difference becomes noticeable then. I am just an average self defense guy with ZERO military or LEO training!!! SHOP ALL GLOCK 26 PISTOLS See All. So all that said yes, I LOOOOVE my 23 and find it to be perfect for CCDW carry too!!! I like having the big bore in a full-size handgun, and the smaller caliber in a compact carry gun. Nice write up! Been in the firearms business for the better part of 40 yrs, owned and shot just about everything made. I carry this thing with me everywhere I go. .Do really like the 40 better than the 9, for me at least. Glock 19C Gen 4 9MM. The Glock 26 is actually several handguns in one. Why choose between them carry them both as you see fit on a day to day basis. There was a little more flash using the same white box ammo. Among common handgun rounds, the .357Mag, .357 SIG and 10mm deliver that much muzzle energy out of typical 4 barrels. @Bob Campbell: Thanks for your reply. We could debate which has better stopping power all day. 23-ounces and 25-ounces loaded respectivelythat are easy to manipulate and fire. The Glock 19 9mm features a 15-round magazine while the Glock 23 .40 caliber pistol carries 13 rounds in the magazine. Gee, Einstein was right!. It was a St. St. finish. And this is more than a blog, these are professional writers with great experience in the field, not simply fans testing real guns. We take hits no matter what the article, no matter what the gun, but for most shooters, the Glock works. 9mm/.40/.45/.357sig; Im honestly sick of hearing it all. A comparison between the Glock 17 and Glock 26 is illustrative. My accuracy tripled and my rate of fire doubled almost!!! We own a small gun store in NC inside a bigger, regular store & building supply co., I try to grab every glock I can. As far as I know, Glock has 60% of the LEO sales market, not of all sales, but I also couldnt find stats for 2014 to be 100% sure. Standard issued by the Bersa Thunder glock 23 vs 26 tack driver $ 649.99 tripled and my rate of fire doubled almost!. 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