Is so, did you notice an improvement once you got the VGs? The Cessna 185 Skywagon bush plane is everything you expect from a Cessna, an aircraft manufacturer renowned for making excellent bush planes. You can get all the performance out of your airplane in a safe way, no calculations or guessing. Cessna 150: More Than the Worlds Premiere Trainer. by MUSICMAAN Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:40 pm, Post I just finished installing the Sportsman on a 182A. Owners who prefer carburetion over fuel-injection can gain horsepower increases through STCed engine replacements from Texas Skyways; Norland Aircraft Services, of Norland, Ontario, Canada; and P. Ponk Aviation of Camano Island, Washington. The aircraft also has tail handles (B.A.S., Inc.) which slide out of the fuselage, making it easier to move the plane around. Your email address will not be published. The CiES senders uses magnetic field technology vs the old resistive technology of old senders, also they are a direct replacement of the old Cessna senders in my 182, install was easy and quick. There is a Bushmaster option that features oversized landing gear tires and heavy-duty brakes. coming close to the runway). The tailwheel conversion was paired with the Bush STOL kit. Isnt the longer prop a bit more prone to dings from picking up rocks, etc. And then the kicker. The company ended production of the DHC-6 Otter in 1988. The Hangar.Flights editorial team consists of pilots, aviation enthusiasts, and freelance writers. The vids are great. The buyer then builds the kit into an airplane or hires a professional to perform the task. Thanks again! Decreasing airframe drag is the way to increased speed. Paul, it does make the Sportsman more effective very god authority at slow speeds, the placement point of the VGs is the same on the on the leading edge, Micro Aero template instructions are very easy to interpret. We reserve the right to remove any messages that we deem unacceptable. The Sportsman STOL is not just a lip on the bottom, but is a re-engineered airfoil. I installed the Sportsman on my 170 several years ago and on my 180 a couple of years ago. You raise a good point about VGs and frosty wings. For a look at all the current STCs, visit the FAA's Web site ( http://av-info.faa.gov/stc/). Simple solution. Adding redundancy is another way to increase safety and reliability. By clicking below to subscribe, you acknowledge that your information will be transferred to Mailchimp for processing. Kit-built bush planes: as the name implies, they are bush planes built from a kit. And it can be rigged with floats or skis for water landings and snowy/icy terrain. What are the negatives on the VGs? Charlie Siebel, a retired Cessna engineer, developed the Flight Bonus kit that is now sold by Horton STOLcraft in Wellington, Kansas. It can land within 427 feet (130 m) of an airstrip, and it can take off within a distance of 640 feet (195 m), and there is more. The DHC-2T Turbo Beaver is a more powerful variant equipped with a 680hp Pratt & Whitney PT6A-27 turboprop engine for better performance and payload hauling (2,450Ib) capacity. I moved into a new apartment this week, and I dont have an internet connection yet. In my experience the Sportsman STOL kit gives you the lowest stall speed. E-mail the author at [emailprotected]. An adaptable undercarriage: a bush plane undercarriage can be adapted for use on different types of terrain. These tanks are permanent and will never have a wrinkle that hides water. More horsepower will increase your airplane's climb performance, but claims for quantum increases in cruise speeds should be viewed with a grain of salt. "Our main use is on floats in the summer," Pearse said. STCed electric motor-driven systems by Airborne, of Elyria, Ohio, and Aero Safe, of Granbury, Texas, are installed on many IFR airplanes. It starts blowing around 60mph. The Sportsman STOL kit was installed on Fish and Game's 1979 Cessna 185. I owned a Robertson 206 and the very first Robertson 180. Bringing back a zombie thread. Robertson R/STOL parts are back in manufacturing again! Original color was orange and white, old 1970s scheme. It's marketed by Stene of Polson, MT> Here is a link to an article on the Hawk XP: www.cessnaflyer.org/flighttraining/item/.e-r172k-hawk-xp.html . This category is experimental because the build process is handled by a third party, not the manufacturer. The best bush planes are built to land on almost any surface, including gravel, grass, dirt, and mud landing strips located in the middle of nowhere. by iflyforpie Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:28 am, Post I recommend that you take a mountain flying course. For me this is a must and the first mod to do. Knots 2Us 182 flap gap kit lists for $425, with an estimated 7 hours installation. If the rules of aviation were rewritten to say that a pilot could buy one, and only one, airplane to fill every need he could foresee in his flying life, the chances are very good that the Cessna 182 would be that one airplane. Look at the things this airplane does well it is comfortable and stable, it is a true four-place airplane, it is a rock-solid instrument platform, its takeoff and landing capabilities are almost STOL-like, and it is dependable because of its simple systems. After you have one, looking at the airspeed for landing will feel old fashion. Compare. The bush plane features an indestructible taildragger design which can be rigged with skis. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests. The Airglas Heavy Duty Nose Fork is the best way to get your Cessna into the Backcountry. Cessna introduced the 182 in 1956 and built it continuously until 1986 for a production run of 19,613 airplanes. Start your free trial today! Do the STOL kits and the VGs affect the top cruising speed of the 182? These small devices also improve the 182's slow-speed handling, which is truck-like. Forgot your password? by CamAero Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:10 pm, Post Peterson's Performance Plus, of El Dorado, Kansas, has an STC to install the ultradependable 260-hp fuel-injected IO-470 engine (see " Peterson's 260SE is a Different Breed of 182"). Aileron hinges are $350 apiece. Discussion in 'Maintenance Bay' started by denverpilot, Jul 9, 2013. It flies great and stalls at 38mph indicated. Contact information for companies mentioned in this article are listed below: Experimental Aircraft Association Inc. EAA Aviation Center 3000 Poberezny Road Oshkosh, Wisconsin Telephone 920/426-4800 Fax 920/426-4873 Web www.eaa.org, Petersen Aviation Inc. 984 K Road Minden, Nebraska 68959 Telephone 308/832-2050 Fax 308/832-2311 Web www.webworksltd.com, B&C Specialty Products Inc. Post Office Box B Newton, Kansas 67114 Telephone 316/283-8000, Aero Safe Corp. 2109 East Highway 377 Granbury, Texas 76049 Telephone 800/433-5689 Fax 817/579-9666 Web www.aerosafe.net, Airborne Air and Fuel Products 711 Taylor Street Elyria, Ohio 44037 Telephone 800/382-8422 Fax 440/937-5409 Web www.parker.com, Precise Flight Inc. 63120 Powell Butte Road Bend, Oregon 97701 Telephone 800/547-2558 Fax 541/388-1105 Web www.preciseflight.com, Horton STOLcraft Wellington Municipal Airport 421 Northwest Road Wellington, KS 67152 Telephone 800/835-2051 or 316/326-2241 Fax 316/326-2244, Knots 2 U Ltd. 703 Airport Road Burlington, Wisconsin 53105 Telephone 262/763-5100 Fax 262/763-5125 Web www.knots2u.com, Maple Leaf Aviation Inc. Group 520, Box 16, R.R. Trade it in on a Beaver. by yukonbackcountry Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:31 pm, Post In general I follow its guidance but in landing it will sometimes start sounding long before anything is really a problem. Looking for advice or opinions on Stol Mods for the Cessna 100 series aircraft, Specifically the 182. DHC-6 Twin Otters are very popular bush planes around the world. As Steve has mentioned, I should practice landings until I can hit 630' at full gross, but then the question of landing speed comes in. The gross takeoff weight of the 182 continued to increase as Cessna made model changes. The WingX is for a factory leading edge. He has installed STOL kits on them and thinks highly of them. Wheee! Huge fan of your YouTube page, Keep up the awesome videos! Wow. The manufacturer produces the aircraft but delivers it to the buyer in a kit package instead of a ready-to-fly unit. I bought the engine when it had 36 hrs on a Reman O470 R Continental engine. In case of the Cessna 182, when coming very slow to land usually you ran out of elevator and sunk into the runway, VGs do help having more elevator authority. Thank you very much! I have a the Sportsman STOL, VGs, PPONK engine, BAS seat belts. Me encanta a tus videos. by CamAero Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:57 am, Post How big were the stock wheel/tires, and whats the current size? Drag is also reduced by re-accelerating the exiting air from the cowling and helping it attach back to the. I was always surprised at how inaccurate were the fuel gauges in most GA airplanes, I had the visual measurment with the stick and the fuel totalizer, it worked, but still the gauges always read whatever they wanted to read. 1.7k views | By Hangar.Flights Contributor | Last updated on February 11, 2023. Yes, 8.50 on the mains and 7.00 on the nose. "The plane was delivered in like-new condition, with a new interior, leather seats, a new panel with internally lit instruments with my choice of avionics, and new paint. You can add a couple of skis if you need to land on a glacier. Bush planes can be extremely fun and forgiving to fly. The "do it one time and you will never again have a problem" solution is the installation of umbrella-type fuel caps. And if you are ever looking for passenger, Im a student pilot out of Boise, looking forward to exploit all of Idahos back country. In this video, we're flying again with Paul Duffy who has completed his private, upgraded to a Cessna 182, is looking for a recurrency flight, and is continu. I live on a small airstrip about 20 miles north west of Mt. Honest 182 owners will tell you they flight plan for 130 to 135 knots at normal cruise altitudes and power settings. I could not land at many of the places I land if it was not for the Sportsman STOL. Fit and position nose blocks using top surface contour templates (contour templates are only available for early model kits, pre-1973 model Cessna's, all late models do not require the use of the contour template). Maple Leaf Aviation Ltd, in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada, also sells some speed-fairing kits. Have you modified your aircraft? Moore traveled to El Dorado Airport to pick up his "new" airplane. by CamAero Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:33 pm, Post Total: 1325'. The aircraft must perform short-distance landing and take-off from tight spaces and small airfields. 25% on wheels, the Cessna 185 by 35% and the Cessna 206 by 30-35%. Cessna 182 Cowl Body Fairing Kit. I have not done one but I have heard very good things about McCall Mountain Canyon Flying. Low-pressure tundra tires: bush planes are often fitted with massive low-pressure tires suitable for landing on the Alaskan and Canadian tundra. However it lost approximately 7-10mph in cruise. Forgot your username? The canard contributes to a flat deck angle during climb and enables the airplane to maintain the same flat deck angle during slow flight at 55 knots. Stock tires were 5.00 x 6 on the nose and 6.006 in the mains. Two brand new knots 2 u wingtips in the box. During takeoff acceleration or liftoff, any water present may jump the tank wrinkle and enter the engine in a big slug when the airplane is low and slow. We believe that by sharing personal experiences we gain insight and become better pilots. I have seen and recognized them as one of the best out there and cant wait to gain more experience flying them! This highly recommend this upgrade to all pilots who fly legacy airplanes. In a Cessna 182 its loosing this amount of weight does make a difference in the elevator forces Because of its light weight there is a quicker throttle response, great for windy landings, backcountry operations, short fields. High quality Filmed from inside the cockpit, outside views, and ground views, giving a wide variety. There seems to be a pretty convincing majority that consider vortex generators to be worth the investment. A bush plane can be equipped with floats to land on rivers, lakes, or beaches. By this law, removing the 230-hp engine and installing a 300-hp engine (a 24-percent power increase) could increase the maximum speed by 9 percent. The P-ponk o-470 conversion is pretty good too. The Horton STOL kit was also mentioned by Cessna pilots. My stall warning also comes off early , like at 55 to 60, and stalls at 40. Backup vacuum systems are available. My stall horn goes off too soon in my opinion. The 170 was a best-selling four-place aircraft in the years following World War II. Upgross to 2950lbs, 25% reduced takeoff run on floats, easy install. Honestly, youre the only youtube subscription I have. The Skylane is generally equipped with a 230 hp engine which gives it about a 145-knot cruise. Short of that, the only way is to reduce the cost of fuel. 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