Then, anytime within the year, we come back for free to inspect or treat. Sounds like this is by the roof. But what would guarantee that termites will find the bait stations? Anything to get out of paying. The bait is much more expensive than the wood that was in there before. WebAltriset is also proven to last longer than other termiticides, sometimes as much as twice as long. The original liquid Termidor treatment barrier was probably done within a foot or two from the home foundation. Any advice about warranties on Thermidor? You can try to change them all you want, but your pettiness and skewed numbers are very easy to see through. Sorry probably over-analyzing the situation but, the arguments for each type of treatment (liquid injection and bait stations) have their strong points and their flaws from what Ive been reading. Some companies will offer cheaper products such as talstar which is fine for conventional but not for slab. im from the philippines. In terms of experience, I have worked personally for 41 years. We have been around since the 1950s and have done thousands of Sentricon installations (as well as thousands of liquid treatments). We decided to go w/Sentricon and annual contract including 4 visits/year to check the bait stations. I want to know if they treat the perimeter of the house, wont that take care of the termites if they are in the garage area too? Never wears off. Someone made a comment earlier about the White House using Sentricon great. I had a Sentricon baiting system installed after a plumber found termites under my home. Termidor is the only Termiticide to show 100% effectiveness against termites and also provides termite colony elimination. "Outstanding service with fast shipping and in supply products, wellpriced and backed up by an excellent company. I expressed joy that my annual fee would surely drop, only to find that this will not happen. Did we go wrong with Sentricon and should have we just gone w/Termidor to start with? You are welcome to your biased opinion as to how effective Sentricon is, however, my opinion, having worked with both products is that they are equally effective. 3) Since TWO inspections missed extensive damage, should we continue checking inside walls anywhere we are worried about even if the inspectors say dont worry? Any advise would be appreciated. I thought about going with a bait system, but there seems to be controversy over it, whereas there really doesnt seem to be too much controversy with the Termidor. Money is super tight now. I was just doing a search for more info on Sentricon and found this site: http://www.syix.com/emu/html/sentricon.html. The length of this contract is due to the fact that baiting is a long term proposition that takes time to work. Termidor HE stands for "High Efficiency" because it is the most concentrated product the manufacturer has with this active ingredient, which is more convenience for Pest Control Professionals who may be treating dozens of homes each week. Hey Missy, That company that wants to do Sentricon and Termidor, mark them off your list. Testimonials , Learning Termidor SC has a proven track record in Australia. Sentricon is the only University-tested termite control product that totally eliminates the termite colonies underground at their source. Termidor is a great product but requires much more TLC when applying and if you have a an ill-informed applicator you will be VERY dissatisfied. But I hate to see any of these products misconstrued by bad information. Not to impressed with some of your comments. Im done with them. Tyler, good to hear there is a good Orkin office. Both methods are about 99.5% effective. In addition to this, orange oil is less effective at subterranean termites because they live inside the soil and come to wood only for feeding. But, if it did, I would go Sentricon. Orange oil has a shorter life and lasts only for a few days after application. in Feb, 2013, 24 stations of sentricon always active installed. Ant wings are only slightly longer than their bodies. That is where a prevention treatment could be a good thing and actually save money in the long run. Both work great initially but what makes Termidor better is it doesnt re-emulsify and Premise does . Again, any thoughts or opinions would be most welcome. WebAlso Termidor. Use Left/Right arrow keys to allow users to navigate within the navigation links. And every member is in good standing for recommendation as long as the dues are paid. We use it. Trey is going against the label: no partial treatments with Termidor allowed. At $1800.00 I would assume your home to be approximately 150 linear feet . Works the same way with baiting. Why waste your money paying for insurance. where can i order termidol to be shipped here? They proposed we go with the Sentricon Termite Colony Elimination System which features a lifespan that would shadow the life expectancy of our home for the life of the home. Arnaldo. Termidor SC is the product which we at Termite Guys Brisbane have been using solely for the past ten years. So how do they find the Termidor? This new technology has proven to move 2.5 times further in the soil than the industry standard. Only a tiny percentage of the pest companies (most who have a hard time understanding the technology) dont use the baits. Only one message said termidor does not travel and turns to a solid. The installer I want to use is very highly recommeneded. I know what I have seen, and I know what has worked for me. Use Enter/Space key to select the menu/submenu items. I have asked a couple big local owned company and they all said they are authorized to do both Sentricon and Termidor. Altriset is non-repellent to the termites and also very safe for the environment, probably the safest of all currently available termiticides. Termidor, on the other hand, is a chemical termiticide that provides a soil barrier surrounding your house. think they can cut back on the gallons used to treat, and too much could be bad..(2) There is getting to be alot of counterfeit Termidor on the market due to its high price, just look on E-Bay , most of that being sold on E-Bay is counterfeit..So if the company that treated your home thought they got a great deal on E-Bay and treated your home with it?? Make sure that you test the GFI prior to use by touching the tip of the drill to any grounded metal object, such as water lines under a sink, etc.. To Jim: see my question above regarding risk factors with application of Termidor. It is water soluble, and less enduring in wet soils. Right now we have two main alternatives The Sentricon System and Termidor. I didn\\\t see the insects anymore until a few days ago. You can rent hammer drills from any tool rental center. I cant seem to find any information online about the concentration issue. I am confused. They do not sell bait system. I have also used Firstline with Orkin, it is truly junk, you can buy the same bait at Lowes..I currently use Esystex (Exterra) which is similar to Sentricon and Advance.I always let my bait customers know that this is a LONG TERM COMMITMENT . Altriset is very similar to Termidor and is a new termiticide with lesser toxicity. Another company recommended Sentricon and est is $1282 with $400 a year to maintain. Looking forward to your initial payment and monthly/quarterly/annual payments so we can continue to milk you and tell you to go pound sand when (not if) your house is destroyed by what well claim is a special kind of bug that isnt covered by our warranty., All our best (profits), Love, Why would I when Termidor is better anyway? If youre going to get personal, do it to your spouse, not to me. Not to take away from Sentricon, as I have stated I do believe they are probably the leading bait stations and they do work excellent once termites find them, but you must use liquid along with the bait. Tyler, not all Orkin and Terminix techs are bad. Excludes Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and all other U.S. territories. Howver, 1800.00 seems like a lot of money!! Bait stations are a natural alternative and dont dump chemicals into the soil or kill beneficial insects especially ants that kill termites. Sentricon charges one fee to the pest company and all materials are included. This spring, in my territory alone which consists of 6 counties, I had 12 call backs on Sentricon and absolutely NO callbacks resulting in live termite activity. the first local pest control company are the ones that want to do the injection. 1. What is the policy for Experts coming back to check the Sentricon Baits? Use Left/Right arrow keys to allow users to navigate within the navigation links. Every study I have seen all say that within 90 days of a treatment with Termidor there is no living termites within an acre of the average size home. Web20 (2002.03.03) Age 22 (2000.08.08) Italy Birthplace Canada 6'1" (185 cm) Height What about when it rains hard for 2 weeks and the gutters overflow? That is what they do, they continuously forage seeking out cellulose and moisture. My mothers house is in NY where Termidor cant be used. If termites are currently eating on your home, its doubtful that theyll leave that perfect food source to feed on some bait stuck in the ground out in the lawn. This has been very informative. We charge around $600 $900 for most Sentricon jobs. Wont cost you anything. I am in an internet chat room with pest companies all over the world and almost all the Advance users are backing off now, because they have been burnt by numerous jobs where they lost money because of large underground infestations. Its hard to find unbiased advice about termite treatments I hope I can find it here. You can also look for Shatter which is the exact same thing as Sentricon.. Laura ,Termidor would be your best option but not Orkin. We live deep down in termite country, and its time to think about extending our termite contract. Our company does the Sentricon. It contains the same chemical, Fipronil, as Termidor SC. Look for a company using Exterra Or Advance that does monthly or bi-monthly service. Im not pro-anything. Youll also be happy to learn that this lowtoxic product is virtually odor free! Id say you better use Termidor while you can because its days are numbered; the whack-os will eventually succeed in outlawing it, too. Check with the BBB and National Pest Management Assn for good standing. I would recommend having your home protected with Termidor after all of the construction is complete. Use Down or Tab key to select next menu item. Stay away from companys like orkin, terminix and other national companys. It looks like there is some kind of pre-con system installed (looks like outdoor electric outlets with 2 hoses). Termidor HE termiticide treatment is 50% more time-efficient than conventional termiticides, Time and Motion Study, Arizona, 2014. You really think even they are selling knockoffs? Sentricon and Termidor are both about 99% effective. Or you can ask them not to treat that area if you prefer. Responses have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by the bank advertiser. It is true that hundreds of gallons will be used, but most of that is water. This is currently the technique that most reputable pest control companies use. We recommend Termidor SC for a termite treatment due to how long it lasts in the soil. Good luck! Get with the 21st Century! (Builder foreclosure). How long does Termidor last? I would compare the bids carefully to make sure that all the terms are equal. All of this changed in the early 1990's when it was found that lower PSI did a better job of dispersing chemicals with reduced "drift" and mess. I have tried to educate consumers about the difference between the two products. When termites eat Termidor treated I had a strange feeling that the posts would be deleted so I saved them as a Word file. My house was treated with chlordane in the 80s but flying termites appeared this year which apparantly means there are workers present and trails in place so we have to treat. I simply cannot see anyone asking you to be an expert witness in any courtroom setting; youre just too emotional. What do you think? I dont know how much Sentricon costs the termite companies, but that cost is passed onto the customers obviously. The dealers must get training and sign an agreement to pay for product. Also Premis. We dont use Premise or any of the other cheaper brands because they dont hold up as well. In other parts of the country, people want an effective alternative to liquid termiticides and Sentricon works great. Wouldnt you at some point have to pay to re-treat the entire house again? Otherwise, you are probably looking at $800 $1,000 for a termidor treatment. Do I have to pay for each time they come back or is it covered in the initial cost? Termidor SC is the Suspended Concentrate, which is a liquid concentrate. This conversation has been helpful, though. Most Sentricon vendors have gone to once a year inspections with the new generation (AE/Always Active) bait. Thanks, Jim. Since this is a slow process, termites dont notice that the colony is in trouble. I have narrowed my choice to 2, one is along time local area pest control , my second choice is a relative company young company aprox (5 years) both phone book adds have terimidor seal? Meanwhile the termite colony is still eating a pound of wood per day at that home until, by chance, they happen upon a bait station. The government does everything right dont they? Thank you! 10 feet for a termite is equal to just over a mile for a human. Jessica, you wont regret going with Termidor. Termidor has no color, taste, odor or fumes and is easily transmitted through feeding and grooming from termite to termite. It happens all the time, realtors are mostly all crooked!!! Termidor is termidor right? Termiticide labels have specific instructions on how to perform treatments below cement or slab foundations. Biggest rip-off? Do you think it would be feasible for me to persuade a local company to use Altriset for the first time for my application? I sweeped them up only to notice that there were more coming out of my vents gross!. Prices are comparable for the initial treatment/installation. Just because you go more frequently, doesnt make your service better. Most pest control products will have a signal word that says: DANGER/POISON, WARNING or CAUTION. Thats Wood Destroying Organisms Division, not wood destroying insect committee. Jay, work on your attitude! The only other thing I want you to be careful of MJ is to make sure they are doing the job properly. This site is available in the following languages: Innovation Still Never Stops: 2021 Triple Play, Customer Success Story | Green Turf in the Blue Ridge, Take a Fresh Look at Intrinsic brand fungicides, Five cultural practices that will improve disease management, Funky Pests | Don't Get Walloped by Whiteflies, Plant Protection: How to Use Pesticides Appropriately, 3 things growers should know about heat stress, Effective Pest Management Approaches for Spring Growers. And we have a quote from Terminx that has a protection plan with no treatment until termites are found within a 5 ft from the house and at that point they will treat with termindor. I have used both Termidor and Sentricon for several years. I would not depend on DuPonts Altriset either. I am torn because of that. The house just got a clean bill of health from two different exterminators. On a house that has a basement, a 4 foot rod is injected all the way into the ground, the soil is saturated, then the trench is filled at a rate of 4 gallons per 10 linear feet. appearing on this site are from advertisers from which this website receives compensation for being listed here. Based on the inspection sticker on the electrical panel, Im going to guess that its some kind of Sentricon system. However, cheaper is only a better deal if the product isnt inferior. I have ordered products from them before, and I absolutely love those people. Dont use any baiting system. Thanks Tyler. Any suggestions? It controls the infestation totally in three months. However, today March 27 2010, I did see a small swarm. The plastic tubes are found by scanning for a chip, so can be covered over by grass or landscaping. I have had a complete Termidor treatment, and they have done an interior dusting twice, including drilling in under my tub deck in the master and shooting the dust there. This spring, while doing some light remodeling to our attached garage on a slab, I found what looked like old termite damage (fairly severe) in wood plank siding underneath steel siding that is about 15 years old. Without having any other bids for Termidor, what should be a reasonable cost?? What if the wife wants to plant flowers near the house. We are the professionals and we know the best way to protect your home so PLEASE let us do our job and expect us to get into the crawl spaces during the reinspections each & every year. I need to ensure that the termites do NOT make it into the house, here is my plan: Pay the quoted $1000 price for Sentricon installation by the pro(Orkin). The world is getting greener all the time and Sentricon is a product that works great and does not involve injecting a hundred gallons of pesticide into the environment. Also they only show up a couple times during the year. Or maybe just trench along the house to do partial treatment? While it is still high its the best. This technique is useful for treating concrete areas where the soil is tightly compacted against the bottom of the slab and the termiticide has to "drip" down into the soil. What do you think of the Terminx program, where they come out yearly and inspect but unless termites are found within 5ft of the house they do not treat. The products that we sell are safe when used as directed, but be a little safety conscious. We will request Termidor. The Sentricon Stations are about 1 foot underground, where the termites are foraging. Over time as the termite activity has disappeared the extra bait stations were removed. You are right that in once they find some wood they like they will call the other termites over with phermones, absolutely. This was probably 1 1/2 yrs ago. I have read that the tubes get pheromones from active termites, which may ward off future colony workers. I live in New England and have owned my home for 15 years. Would it be correct of me to assume that your advice for treatment would be (in order of preference): 1) full Termidor exterior treatment, 2) use of bait system, 3) spot treatment with Termidor? Sentricon would be around $900 + $300 renewal. Ive decided to go with Termidor, but I cant decide which warranty option to take. With Advance (and all the other bait products out there), the pest company pays piecemeal (approx $10 per station and $20 per bait tube). Look for a small to mid sized, locally owned and operated with a good reputation.You may even check your states Department of Agriculture website, it should show who has complaints against them. It works by paralyzing the mouths of termites within hours of exposure, stopping further damage immediately. For safety reasons. Safe chemical, but not enough field research completed to date. Read the label Jay. It also increases termites natural social behavior. Just discovered our house in Ft. Worth TX has a termite infestation. A few years ago Termidor HE, high efficiency, came out on the market. It is a shame that he has to resort to lying to make it look like he knows what he is talking about. Curious as to what to do. Ive read good things about Phantom but would appreciate input on Phantom vs. Termidor. This house is mostly crawl space, about 50 years old. Both methods have a similar initial cost ($700 $1,200), but the annual renewal is usually a little higher for Sentricon (4 trips instead of 1). So, I decided I needed a 2nd opinion. So, the barrier created stays effective longer. Altriset Termiticide: Active ingredient in altriset is Chlorantraniliprole. What a joke. You will find more personalized service from a locally owned and oporated company. As for Advance, it is not as tightly controlled, but it is not as effective, and is VERY expensive because you have to buy each and every component. Less water is needed for Termidor HE when mixed so it is a water saving alternative to Termidor SC. It was first introduced in the United States in 2000. Drilling will almost always leak. I wouldnt be afraid to use it though. Best of all, it will do so using no liquid chemicals. I am thinking about getting a termite job to our house to keep termites out. And if you do choose baits SIZE COUNTS. Again, the leading experts say that bait alone is not enough. Every chemical has some sort of breakdown period. WebTermidor carries a CAUTION on the pesticide label in USA and is highly active against a variety of non-target animals such as bees and fish. It also appears to us at Termite Guys Brisbane that Termidor HE in the way it is marketed comes across as less labor intensive, with less drilling, less digging and thus less work for the installer. I dont believe that considering the amount of rain that we get in the south during hurricane season. Termidors active ingredient, Fipronil, is the same ingredient used in many flea and tick control products like Frontline. 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